[EBB Sightings] : Condor historical Amador Valley link
[EBB Sightings] : Condor historical Amador Valley link
debbie viess
Sun Feb 08 06:35:49 PST 2009
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yes, condors used to be a lot more plentiful in CA; of course, so were ground sloths!
the great fun of a possible (but unproven) sighting like this is how it stimulates our thoughts and imagination, and hopefully deepens our attachment to and understanding of the wonderful and complex natural world that surrounds us.
there is certainly much to ponder, these days.
Debbie Viess
--- On Sun, 2/8/09, Richard Cimino wrote:
> From: Richard Cimino
> Subject: [EBB Sightings] : Condor historical Amador Valley link
> To: sightings at diabloaudubon.com
> Date: Sunday, February 8, 2009, 6:16 AM
> A few weeks ago I attend a lecture on the eastern Alameda
> County landscape
> given by Stephen W. Edwards Director, Regional Parks
> Botanic Garden.
> During his talk and slide show, Mr. Edwards referenced the
> discovery of the
> oldest complete Ohlone Indian burial site found in
> California during the
> 1980's near Santa Rita Rd. Pleasanton, Cal.
> Within the burial site complex was discovered the reminds
> of a female chief
> laid to rest adorned in of all thing CONDOR BONES.
> The discovery has been published by Coyote Press, author
> Wiberg, Randy
> 1988, Title -The Santa Rita Village mortuary complex.
> The publication was available to read after the lecture, so
> I did take a
> few minutes to review, fascinating reading.
>
> Richard Cimino
> rscimino at earthlink.net
> Da Pacem Cordium
>
>
> > [Original Message]
> > From: Allen Fish
> > To:
> > Date: 2/2/2009 11:47:40 AM
> > Subject: FW: [EBB Sightings] RE: Condor
> >
> > I've got to respectfully say that a condor is not
> the most likely
> > explanation, and that it's a bit dangerous to say
> so on the listserv.
> > This is where friendly speculation becomes fact in
> many people's mind.
> > I'm glad we have a conservative Calif Bird Records
> Committee.
> >
> > Calif Condors all carry patagial marks and no such tag
> was seen on this
> > bird. Numerous light patches and reflections can
> produce "white
> > patches" on a large dark bird. And few of us
> judge size in the sky
> > well. Call me cynical but I've heard too many
> photographs of certainly
> > rare birds that turned into something more common in
> the photo.
> >
> > Thus the most likely explanation is that, without a
> photo or an
> > elaborate drawing-documentation, we will never know
> what this big bird
> > was. And that's OK.
> >
> > Good condoring --
> >
> > Allen
> >
> > Allen Fish
> > Director
> > Golden Gate Raptor Observatory
> > Bldg 1064, Ft Cronkhite
> > Sausalito, CA 94965
> > 415-331-0730
> > afish at parksconservancy.org
> > www.ggro.org
> > www.parksconservancy.org
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: sightings-bounces at diabloaudubon.com
> > [mailto:sightings-bounces at diabloaudubon.com] On Behalf
> Of debbie viess
> > Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:15 AM
> > To: Sightings at diabloaudubon.com
> > Subject: Re: [EBB Sightings] RE: Condor
> >
> > A condor sightseeing out of Pinnacles (again) was the
> most likely
> > explanation.
> >
> > Can't keep a good vulture down, and dead things
> are everywhere they
> > wanna be! We WANT to see these birds striking out on
> their own and
> > exploring new territories...life on the dole is
> ennervating to birds and
> > humans. And some fine day, perhaps condors will truly
> fly free again,
> > w/out all of the damned hardware...a gal can dream,
> can't she?
> >
> > Debbie Viess
> >
> >
> > --- On Wed, 1/28/09, PAGPEG at aol.com
> wrote:
> >
> > > From: PAGPEG at aol.com
> > > Subject: Re: [EBB Sightings] RE: Condor
> > > To: Sightings at diabloaudubon.com,
> judisierra at yahoo.com
> > > Cc: PAGPEG at aol.com
> > > Date: Wednesday, January 28, 2009, 7:49 PM
> > > Greetings Judi,
> > >
> > > Yes, a report for a Calif. Condor seen in
> Livermore
> > > (2005-6) elicited a
> > > response from the Condor Team at the Big Sur Bird
> Banding
> > > Station. They knew the
> > > bird (most likely) and it's number having
> been tracked
> > > out of the Pinnacles
> > > population and known to be traveling north at the
> time of
> > > the sighting.
> > >
> > > Happy Birding,
> > >
> > > Phil E.
> > >
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