[EBB Sightings] BIRDER BEHAVIOR The ABA code of Ethics

To Katy, on the original; doesn't this call to mind the 'ethics' of
providing an 'unnatural' source of food such as probably most of us do with
birdfeeders?

Sharyn
 
Mrs. Sharyn Fernandez Galloway 

n 3/22/05 2:13 PM, richard cimino at rscimino at earthlink.net wrote:

> The ABA code of Ethics say we should not disturb a rare bird many are
> watching.
> ABA Birding March/April 2005 Volume 37 pages 124-125, Letters to The Editor  .
> Read "Collecting Twitches" a letter from an ABA memeber.
> The reader Bob Fisher of Independence Missouri, voices an opinion of birding
> vs science.
> A few years ago I worked for the U.S Forest Service doing a Sptted Owl nesting
> survey in the Sequioa
> National Forest to define the boundries for a logging contact which was to be
> let.
> The pirority was to protect several Spotted Owls known to use the forest for
> nesting.
> This was March 2003.
> The Biologist I worked for was taught by the U.S Forest Service to call-minic
> from her own voice the
> Spotted Owl. It was wonderful to be in total darkness at 3 or 4 AM in the 100%
> still~ quiet wilderness and hear her call for the owls. But is was even more
> motivating to hear the response.
> The birds came into perfect view.
> No harm done:  in fact this help the Owls, the Forest Service and the Loggers
> , by keeping the nesting territories
> off limits to logging. Everyone was happy. I spoke with the Cut Manager he was
> 100% supportive of the action to set big boundries. He was afraid the noise
> would distrub the nesting Owls. So he wanted big boundries.
> Oh as  side note this Biologist did a terffic Great Grey Owl Call, too.
> 
> Regards
> Rich Cimino
> Pleasanton, Ca.
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Hartwell, Roger" 
> Sent: Mar 22, 2005 11:22 AM
> To: Martha H Breed , sightings at diabloaudubon.com
> Subject: RE: [EBB Sightings] Fw: BIRDER BEHAVIOR
> 
> I think calls can be useful if done in a coordinated scientific effort
> to determine the status of suspected declining species.  Cornell's Birds
> in Forested Landscapes is such an effort, and in that case it might be
> worth the bird's trouble for the benefits the species receives.  But it
> is not "birding."  And certainly, no one I know is using the study to
> tic off their scorecards.  Anyway, if your major goal is to fill out a
> bird list you've missed the point of birding.
> 
> Roger D. Hartwell
> Supervising Fisheries and Wildlife Biologist
> East Bay Municipal Utilities District
> Fisheries and Wildlife Division
> 500 San Pablo Dam Road
> Orinda, CA 94563
> (510) 287-2025
> Business Fax (925) 254-8320
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sightings-admin at diabloaudubon.com
> [mailto:sightings-admin at diabloaudubon.com] On Behalf Of Martha H Breed
> Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 10:35 AM
> To: sightings at diabloaudubon.com
> Subject: [EBB Sightings] Fw: BIRDER BEHAVIOR
> 
> Birders: I am forwarding this post from Oregon birders online
> 
> 
> --------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 16:14:05 -0800
> 
> Dear Katy,
> 
> I agree with Katy 100%. I don't think birders understand the
> DAMAGE they do to the birds they claim to admire. Lets imagine I am a
> Principal of a large grammar school. I ask you if my school can visit
> your home and  ask you questions to learn about your wonderful
> lifestyle. Wanting to help students to learn and expand their knowledge,
> you say, yes.  
> 
> For the next 6 months, you have students coming to your house,
> at all hours, one at a time , not on your schedule, but on their
> schedule. You don't want to be rude so you give each of them your time
> and effort. You find some of them very noisy, some arrive on
> skateboards, others litter your yard, some call you on the phone and
> want to talk and talk....  and now you understand that some birds (
> common, rarities, and endangered) can have the same problem you are
> having. Folks, don't be selfish. Turn it around and see it from a bird's
> point of view. 
> 
> Haven't the learned warned us about Not using recordings?
> Spotted Owls are eaten by other owls? Predators are wanting to see what
> you find so interesting! So we have to ask, what are WE as birders, and
> what are YOU individually doing for the survival of the bird species.
> WE and YOU should DO NO HARM!  But you do anyway, and I for one can't
> understand why. Is a tick more important than the bird.
> 
> Pat Waldron
> East of Scio
> Linn Co.
> 
> 
> 
>> Katy Averill wrote:
>> 
>> There have been several messages concerning usage of various
>> machines to play bird calls in order to lure birds into view.  So far
>> I haven't seen any discussion about the ethics of such usage.
>> 
>> We've been on trips with people, and one bird trip company,  who
>> called birds in this way and on 3 trips with a birding company that
>> feels that the waste of the bird's energy in answering is not
>> justified by the customer, or individual birder, being able to make
>> another tick on his/her list.  Does anyone know to what extent
>> breeding, etc., is affected by playing the calls especially in popular
>> areas?   Katy
>> 
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